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Has anyone checked the pot-in pot or Zeer pot system???? it looks like it does the trick preserve produce for quite sometime...
I was wondering if anyone does know of something similar(where you dont hve to be an engineer to buid it) that would be better than this... thanks!!!!!
this is the youtube about it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju_V-wjy ... re=related
Native Americans and pioneers did this in west Texas, New Mexico and Arizona in the covered wagon days. Milk and butter was kept cool by evaporation.
Here is a link that showes how this is still done in the desert southwest today http://www.omick.net/food_preservation/ ... vation.htm
And it does work in dry climates.
Knowledge is preparation.
Best equipment does no good unless you know how to use it.
http://www.roberthicks.shelfreliance.com Thrive Freeze dried food page.
Evaporation coolers only work well if the relative humidity is low. In other words, if your 95F feels sticky hot it is because your sweat isn't evaporating very well due to the high relative humidity and a evaporative cooler won't work much better but if your 95F doesn't feel very hot to you and you can't find any sweat then such a cooler will work much better.
Where will you turn to for help when the Red Cross, Salvation Army and your Insurance is worn out? A.N.T.S.
Here's MORE info from my EHP site: Refrigeration-Alternate Ideas and Zeer Pots
I Used kerosene refers in Papua New Guinea a long time ago for about 3 yrs. they work well. and now have often thought it would be nice to have one for a backup, or even a propane version now, as propane is more readily available than bulk kerosene.
The Aladdin 23 burner in the Servel is the current Aladdin burner that Aladdin sells with their lamps, and they function very well, so I imagine it would work fine in the refer, although they are pricey.
I have 2 Aladdin lamps in the house ready to go if the power goes out.
See Lehmans http://www.lehmans.com/store/Appliances___Gas_Refrigerators_and_Freezers___Dometic___Dometic_Kerosene_Refrigerator___RK400
See also TheNaturalHome for info on propane version https://www.thenaturalhome.com/gasappliances.htm
My Squidoo article; Aladdin Kerosene Mantle Lamp http://www.squidoo.com/aladdinlamp
We have looked and are designing a way to pipe cold spring/well/stream water through the existing coil on a chest freezer. I think that should keep pretty much anything cold if the chest freezer is put in a dark, cool shed.
Here's a vid on someone doing exactly that, Homesteader. They used an old 30's icebox, though. That is a GREAT idea, if you have a spring.
I think it really just requires you to run some pex tubing through it.
Here's an information page on zeer pots and their relative effectiness.
In certain conditions, they can be quite effective.
In the January/February edition of The Backwoodsman they had an article about building Zeer Pots. I have been meaning to try it, but didn't want to buy the pots and sand and have to move them. Here is a link to the back issue:
By the way, I highly recommend this publication. We buy it, and I have the published anthologies, and it is well worth it. I like the articles because they are always written (and usually with photos) by people who have actually done what they are writing about. They are not sourcing their information from the internet and various places of dubious quality. They tell you what worked well, how they innovated, and often give you diagrams and pictures to work from (if you are more of a visual learner).
Anyhow, hope it helps! And, let us know how it goes - I am excited to try it.
An RV or propane fridge still requires an electric current, if only a battery....
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