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Postby ecoexplorer » Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:18 pm

HI all!!!
Has anyone checked the pot-in pot or Zeer pot system???? it looks like it does the trick preserve produce for quite sometime...
I was wondering if anyone does know of something similar(where you dont hve to be an engineer to buid it) that would be better than this... thanks!!!!!

this is the youtube about it...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju_V-wjy ... re=related
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Re: non electric refrigerator...

Postby HighDesertHawk » Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:22 pm

Native Americans and pioneers did this in west Texas, New Mexico and Arizona in the covered wagon days. Milk and butter was kept cool by evaporation.

Here is a link that showes how this is still done in the desert southwest today http://www.omick.net/food_preservation/ ... vation.htm

And it does work in dry climates.
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Re: non electric refrigerator...

Postby Rod » Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:49 am

Evaporation coolers only work well if the relative humidity is low. In other words, if your 95F feels sticky hot it is because your sweat isn't evaporating very well due to the high relative humidity and a evaporative cooler won't work much better but if your 95F doesn't feel very hot to you and you can't find any sweat then such a cooler will work much better.
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Re: non electric refrigerator...

Postby ReadyMom » Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:28 pm

Here's MORE info from my EHP site: Refrigeration-Alternate Ideas and Zeer Pots
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Re: non electric refrigerator...

Postby TBruce » Sun Oct 16, 2011 5:04 pm

I Used kerosene refers in Papua New Guinea a long time ago for about 3 yrs. they work well. and now have often thought it would be nice to have one for a backup, or even a propane version now, as propane is more readily available than bulk kerosene.

The Aladdin 23 burner in the Servel is the current Aladdin burner that Aladdin sells with their lamps, and they function very well, so I imagine it would work fine in the refer, although they are pricey.

I have 2 Aladdin lamps in the house ready to go if the power goes out.

See Lehmans http://www.lehmans.com/store/Appliances___Gas_Refrigerators_and_Freezers___Dometic___Dometic_Kerosene_Refrigerator___RK400

See also TheNaturalHome for info on propane version https://www.thenaturalhome.com/gasappliances.htm

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Re: non electric refrigerator...

Postby donba » Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:19 pm

How about RV wrecking yards there several around the U.S. some of them have LARGE refer/freezers.they worf well on propane with min. battery power for fans and controls. Rember aime small miss small....
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Re: non electric refrigerator...

Postby Homesteader » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:32 pm

We have looked and are designing a way to pipe cold spring/well/stream water through the existing coil on a chest freezer. I think that should keep pretty much anything cold if the chest freezer is put in a dark, cool shed.
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Re: non electric refrigerator...

Postby Lynn LeFey » Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:58 pm

Here's a vid on someone doing exactly that, Homesteader. They used an old 30's icebox, though. That is a GREAT idea, if you have a spring.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOAm0p0BuKM&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL5856833978F86B0B

I think it really just requires you to run some pex tubing through it.
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Re: non electric refrigerator...

Postby AlbusTigris » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:42 am

Here's an information page on zeer pots and their relative effectiness.

In certain conditions, they can be quite effective.

http://www.appropedia.org/Zeer_pot_refrigeration_(design)
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Re: non electric refrigerator...

Postby Senah » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:59 pm

In the January/February edition of The Backwoodsman they had an article about building Zeer Pots. I have been meaning to try it, but didn't want to buy the pots and sand and have to move them. Here is a link to the back issue:

http://backwoodsmercantile.com/Detailed/Shop_Backwoods/Backwoodsman_Back_Issues/January/February_2012_166.html

By the way, I highly recommend this publication. We buy it, and I have the published anthologies, and it is well worth it. I like the articles because they are always written (and usually with photos) by people who have actually done what they are writing about. They are not sourcing their information from the internet and various places of dubious quality. They tell you what worked well, how they innovated, and often give you diagrams and pictures to work from (if you are more of a visual learner).

Anyhow, hope it helps! And, let us know how it goes - I am excited to try it.


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Re: non electric refrigerator...

Postby namwal » Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:29 am

An RV or propane fridge still requires an electric current, if only a battery....
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