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Weatherby Vanguard Series 2 vs. Tikka T3?

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Which .223 rifle should I go with?

Weatherby Vanguard Series 2
5
63%
Tikka T3
1
13%
Other - see comments below
2
25%
 
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Weatherby Vanguard Series 2 vs. Tikka T3?

Postby Senah » Mon May 13, 2013 5:53 pm

Hey there folks. I've been MIA for a while, but thought I'd check back in with a poll and a request for some input.

My husband wants to get me a .223 for our anniversary in August so that I have something to shoot when we are down at the range or out and about when he is shooting his 30-06 so I don't have to hang around like a lump on a log (yeah, he's a catch :) ). At any rate, I've narrowed it down to either getting a Weatherby Vanguard Series 2 or a Tikka T3, and I want to likely go with a stainless steel barrel so that it is a little less maintenance (I also like the barrel on my Ruger 10/22 Takedown). A last consideration in my shopping is that I'm more synthetic oriented with rifles at any rate.

So, if you guys have opinions (and I've pretty much decided against a Sako simply due to cost right now, but I like the quality that's why I have Tikka in the mix), or experience, I'd love to hear.

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Re: Weatherby Vanguard Series 2 vs. Tikka T3?

Postby IceFire » Mon May 13, 2013 8:11 pm

I don't have any experience with the Weatherby or the Tikka. For .223, though, I've had a Ruger Mini-14 that I was VERY happy with.
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Re: Weatherby Vanguard Series 2 vs. Tikka T3?

Postby oldguy » Mon May 13, 2013 11:23 pm

I don't have any experience with the Tikka but I think they may have made firearms for other manufacturers in the past.Never heard anything negative with them. I do have a Weatherby Mark V in .257 WM and it is a jewell. MOA accuracy and extremely mild recoil. I believe the Vanguard series Weatherby's come with synthetic stocks and a MOA accuracy guarantee.
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Re: Weatherby Vanguard Series 2 vs. Tikka T3?

Postby TheGunsmith » Tue May 14, 2013 8:30 am

Only difference is the stock and the iron sights on the Tikka. Mechanically, they are same=same. I have owned a .270 and a .243 Vanguard, and they were both excellent hunting rifles. I would vote for the Weatherby primarily because of the synthetic stock.
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Re: Weatherby Vanguard Series 2 vs. Tikka T3?

Postby Dirk Williams » Tue May 14, 2013 1:50 pm

Vanguards are ok, and they have select models that are dammed accurate. But, the Tikka is a really really accurate rifle. Our 223 sniper rifles were Tikka's lite, accurate and balanced. I've only shot around 30 rounds thru the tikka, but that would be my choice.

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Re: Weatherby Vanguard Series 2 vs. Tikka T3?

Postby Senah » Sun May 26, 2013 1:01 pm

Thanks everyone for your votes and thoughtful replies. I'll let you know which way I end up going :)
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Re: Weatherby Vanguard Series 2 vs. Tikka T3?

Postby munchie3409 » Mon May 27, 2013 11:35 pm

No doubt in my mind that you would be better served getting the Tikka. You cannot beat the Tikka/Sako action in a factory rifle. There is no finer action available in a factory rifle.

The Vanguard series are produced by Howa for Weatherby. Howa makes great rifles, but it's not a Tikka.
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Re: Weatherby Vanguard Series 2 vs. Tikka T3?

Postby Senah » Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:07 pm

Well, I have a sneaky but great husband, and now I have a great rifle as well. He did the whole "Let's not worry about presents this anniversary" thing, so I showed up yesterday morning with a card, and he walks out with a card...and a weatherby vanguard .223 wi the Monte Carlo stock and a gorgeous Zeiss mounted on top. And to top it all off he had bought all the tips for the cleaning rod and brushes and everything.

And I gotta say - MAN! That sub-MOA guarantee is for real! I was shooting groups of 3 within an inch of each other at 100 yards with basement bargain ammo by the eighth time I pulled the trigger. So excited for this gun! Got some really heavy winds that had already chased everyone else off the range so had to call it a day, but can't wait to get out there again soon!
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Re: Weatherby Vanguard Series 2 vs. Tikka T3?

Postby waleeed » Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:47 am

So, if you guys have opinions (and I've pretty much decided against a Sako simply due to cost right now, but I like the quality that's why I have Tikka in the mix), or experience, I'd love to hear.
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Re: Weatherby Vanguard Series 2 vs. Tikka T3?

Postby Dirk Williams » Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:00 am

Senah, congrats on the new rifle. Regardless of brand name on the rifle, the real trick is making your rifle work for you. Sub moa, is always a plus. Reading the wind is a real art. Perhaps the most perishable, skill if not practiced often.

You don't need to be shooting to practice shooting in the wind.

I use to drive around and when I noted wind, I'd do the review of the area, and try and make the proper wind call. I'd do this hundreds of times in a day, confirming the data with a Kestrel 4500, weather/ wind device. The wind can be very suttle, reading small micro bursts, or puffs, was tricky.

Any wind gauge works, I just happened to use what I had. Off topic, but I use to race sailboats. That's where I really learned to read the wind.

A decent wind gauge is not really too expensive. I'd suggest purchasing one, if it's in the budget. A great tool for many sports.

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Re: Weatherby Vanguard Series 2 vs. Tikka T3?

Postby orangetom1999 » Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:21 pm

Agree Dirk...knowing your rifle and making it work for you.

I have a mini 14 and hardly shoot it anymore. I have tended towards bolt actions and single shots as I got older. Doing a lot of reloading tended me towards making my shots count..not shooting a lot..but making them do what I wanted.

I eventually got irritated with a lot of these guys with these Com Block Rifles and can after can of this cheap Com BLock ammo..just banging away at the back stop...without much aiming. Noise making mostly. I would pack up my gear or go to the other end of the shooting range when they showed up.



Right on reading the wind.

At the club to which I belong...there are a lot of .22 rifle competitive shooters..small bore. They have some very very nice rifles.
When watching them for awhile ..it took me some time to realize that they were watching their wind flags on the 50 yard line. They were waiting for the optimum wind before pulling the trigger. They used some kind of match grade .22 long rifle ammo..but even then they seemed to carefully watch their wind flags.

But that is not the same as shooting out in the fleld...hunting game where time limits are of the essence or your game will walk off. Time and decision making are at a premium then.

But it was interesting as a new guy at the club to realize what these people were doing with the wind ..even with the .22 long rifle.

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Re: Weatherby Vanguard Series 2 vs. Tikka T3?

Postby Senah » Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:38 pm

Dirk Williams wrote:Senah, congrats on the new rifle. Regardless of brand name on the rifle, the real trick is making your rifle work for you. Sub moa, is always a plus. Reading the wind is a real art. Perhaps the most perishable, skill if not practiced often.

You don't need to be shooting to practice shooting in the wind.

I use to drive around and when I noted wind, I'd do the review of the area, and try and make the proper wind call. I'd do this hundreds of times in a day, confirming the data with a Kestrel 4500, weather/ wind device. The wind can be very suttle, reading small micro bursts, or puffs, was tricky.

Any wind gauge works, I just happened to use what I had. Off topic, but I use to race sailboats. That's where I really learned to read the wind.

A decent wind gauge is not really too expensive. I'd suggest purchasing one, if it's in the budget. A great tool for many sports.

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Dirk, I do have a wind gauge, and have spent the past year doing just as you say, and it is a great skill to have. My husband and I actually have made it into a game, each guessing the wind speed and seeing who is closest. It's usually right in the middle.

In other news, I have a Weatherby Vanguary 7mm08 and just love it. It shot sub-MOA right out of the box with sale ammo and I haven't been disappointed yet. Handloading for it now, but what a great rifle.
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