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Re: Oregon college shooting

Postby Lynda » Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:58 am

"Someone is trying very hard here to manage this in the news. Now racism in the mix in order to transfer more guilt to Americans and have them ashamed of who and what they are ..if they don't go along with the program. Guilt POlitics...Wow!! here we go again. To be expected in desperation by the anti gun crowd. More emotionalism. I suppose we should have seen this coming with predictability.

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Re: Oregon college shooting

Postby ReadyMom » Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:21 am

Of course, I can't find this in any American Media. Source is European:

Oregon Mass Shooter On Terror List Obama Refused To Take From Russia
http://www.eutimes.net/2015/10/oregon-m ... om-russia/

Posted by EU Times on Oct 2nd, 2015

The Federal Security Services (FSB) is reporting today that an American black-Islamist terror suspect, who yesterday committed an act of mass murder in the State of Oregon (United States), had been included on a list of 87,000 “known/suspected” Islamic terrorists that the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL) refused last month to accept from the Federation due to its not being “politically viable in the present atmosphere”.

According to this report, the black-Islamist terrorist who committed this act of terror, Chris Harper Mercer, had previously been indentified by electronic intelligence specialists within the Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) as being an Islamic State (ISIS/ISIL) adherent after he had attempted to gain passage to Syria via Turkey during the first week of September, 2015.

By the Obama regime refusing to accept this terror list from the Federation, this report continues, Mercer was able to accomplish his terror act when yesterday he killed 9 people and wounded 7 others at the Umpqua Community College prior to his being shot and killed by local US police forces.

Most critical to note about this FSB report is that where it ends, the mysterious, and hugely read, Russian publication Reedus (Ridus.ru) continues—and to fully understand this information one must note that Russian intelligence agencies (SVR/FSB) frequently use Reedus to put information into the public sphere that otherwise would have serious international consequences should the government be found to be behind it—thus giving Reedus its current status known as “a Kremlin resource” and an “agency of Orthodox journalism”. [Русский]

And the information relating to the black-Islamist terrorist Mercer “leaked” into Reedus by the SVR/FSB is, to say the least, shocking and disturbing–including that immediately after the Oregon mass shooting, his Internet personal profile was changed from his true identity as an ISIS/ISIL terror supporter to one of his being a “white conservative Republican”. [Русский]

Also important to be noted was Mercer’s association with the ISIS/ISIL terrorist Mahmoud Ali Ehsani, who is banned in Russia [Русский], and was one of only two of Mercer’s MySpace “friends” and who praises the Islamic State, calls for the killing of Jews and glorifies in pictures on his MySpace page his rapture of these terrorists.

With the true knowledge of Mercer being known as the black-Islamic terrorist he truly was, information which the Obama regime refused to accept from Russia, his mass terror act in identifying and killing Christians becomes immediately understandable.

As to why the Obama regime and their propaganda media lapdogs are disguising the truth from the American people about this horrific act of Islamic terror against them, especially to the families of the dead and wounded, it is not known—but shouldn’t really surprise anyone as that government has been nothing but a mountain of lies for years.
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Re: Oregon college shooting

Postby orangetom1999 » Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:36 am

One aspect I like about most prepeprs is that they area not of what I call "Herd Mentality.....Herd Animals."

Racism, Sexism, Homophobia and other censorship techniques work on a pattern often called "Cognitive dissonance." That people can be managed...herded to avoid conflict or the appearance of conflict. By labeling people in the news and social media...they can be made ashamed and moved in a direction to avoid conflict or the appearance of conflict...like herd animals...by fear of labeling or stigma.

This kind of thing..censorship...works best on young inexperienced easily emoted people who have not had sufficient life experiences. Those raised on a steady diet of television and movies to twang their emotional guitar/violin strings.

You see this technique more and more often as a staple of the body politic, media and also public education as well ...which has also become a movie and television education in lieu of real life experiences and thinking.

But emotions have gotten people to think that they think...and leadership is not beyond taking advantage of this.

Years of programming in the daytime talk show circuit has enabled this ..going back to the king of emotional puppent string twangers...Phil Donahue. Phil of course spawned a plethora of copy cats to keep the programming going.

But nonetheless ..here we are today...substituting emotions for real thinking...independence and self sufficiency.

And emotions can lead quickly to herd mentality in those not trained to spot it.

The news media is verily becoming disgusting in this country in their attempts to pimp out the emotions of the unawares and untutored...they continue and build on Phil Donahue's work. They are become tabloid like in their presentations once you know. I believe the web and it's potential for free exchange of information has allowed some people to think their way around it. Thus I believe shortly and in the future it will be further controlled...censored as it is in European nations.

It really disgusts me how the media, and for whomever they are pimping, tries to blame people who were not in any way involved in the incident and hold them responsible and accountable ...organizations too. This kind of guilt manipulation and censorship....cognitive dissonance is become predictable... You can see them coming with predictability ...every time. The same olde "Usual Suspects" coming out of the woodwork...trying to herd people by their fear and insecurities.

They are dividing this country over such an incident...dividing not uniting. This also indicating a lack of leadership..but division as a political staple..divide and conquer...as this pseudo leadership has always done from the beginning. This is not leadership...but pimping ..political pimping..in short..."Whoredom."
By this division..by this cognitive dissonance as a management technique...they intend to make us like the rest of the world..not Americans but internationalists...herd animals.

Piers Morgan...now there is a gaslighter. Much of leadership in this country too..herd animals.

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Re: Oregon college shooting

Postby daaswampman » Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:33 pm

orangetom1999 wrote:One aspect I like about most prepeprs is that they area not of what I call "Herd Mentality.....Herd Animals."

Racism, Sexism, Homophobia and other censorship techniques work on a pattern often called "Cognitive dissonance." That people can be managed...herded to avoid conflict or the appearance of conflict. By labeling people in the news and social media...they can be made ashamed and moved in a direction to avoid conflict or the appearance of conflict...like herd animals...by fear of labeling or stigma.

This kind of thing..censorship...works best on young inexperienced easily emoted people who have not had sufficient life experiences. Those raised on a steady diet of television and movies to twang their emotional guitar/violin strings.

You see this technique more and more often as a staple of the body politic, media and also public education as well ...which has also become a movie and television education in lieu of real life experiences and thinking.

But emotions have gotten people to think that they think...and leadership is not beyond taking advantage of this.

Years of programming in the daytime talk show circuit has enabled this ..going back to the king of emotional puppent string twangers...Phil Donahue. Phil of course spawned a plethora of copy cats to keep the programming going.

But nonetheless ..here we are today...substituting emotions for real thinking...independence and self sufficiency.

And emotions can lead quickly to herd mentality in those not trained to spot it.

The news media is verily becoming disgusting in this country in their attempts to pimp out the emotions of the unawares and untutored...they continue and build on Phil Donahue's work. They are become tabloid like in their presentations once you know. I believe the web and it's potential for free exchange of information has allowed some people to think their way around it. Thus I believe shortly and in the future it will be further controlled...censored as it is in European nations.

It really disgusts me how the media, and for whomever they are pimping, tries to blame people who were not in any way involved in the incident and hold them responsible and accountable ...organizations too. This kind of guilt manipulation and censorship....cognitive dissonance is become predictable... You can see them coming with predictability ...every time. The same olde "Usual Suspects" coming out of the woodwork...trying to herd people by their fear and insecurities.

They are dividing this country over such an incident...dividing not uniting. This also indicating a lack of leadership..but division as a political staple..divide and conquer...as this pseudo leadership has always done from the beginning. This is not leadership...but pimping ..political pimping..in short..."Whoredom."
By this division..by this cognitive dissonance as a management technique...they intend to make us like the rest of the world..not Americans but internationalists...herd animals.

Piers Morgan...now there is a gaslighter. Much of leadership in this country too..herd animals.

My .02.

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I like your .02 cents! We have become a nation of emotional cripples and wannabe victims. I do not wish harm to anyone, but what happened in Oregon does not and should not effect me. I am sure the emotional cripples of the world will disagree and consider me a Neanderthal, which I will accept as a complement. Swamp
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Re: Oregon college shooting

Postby mintbird » Mon Oct 05, 2015 8:42 pm

daaswampman wrote:
orangetom1999 wrote:One aspect I like about most prepeprs is that they area not of what I call "Herd Mentality.....Herd Animals."

Racism, Sexism, Homophobia and other censorship techniques work on a pattern often called "Cognitive dissonance." That people can be managed...herded to avoid conflict or the appearance of conflict. By labeling people in the news and social media...they can be made ashamed and moved in a direction to avoid conflict or the appearance of conflict...like herd animals...by fear of labeling or stigma.

This kind of thing..censorship...works best on young inexperienced easily emoted people who have not had sufficient life experiences. Those raised on a steady diet of television and movies to twang their emotional guitar/violin strings.

You see this technique more and more often as a staple of the body politic, media and also public education as well ...which has also become a movie and television education in lieu of real life experiences and thinking.

But emotions have gotten people to think that they think...and leadership is not beyond taking advantage of this.

Years of programming in the daytime talk show circuit has enabled this ..going back to the king of emotional puppent string twangers...Phil Donahue. Phil of course spawned a plethora of copy cats to keep the programming going.

But nonetheless ..here we are today...substituting emotions for real thinking...independence and self sufficiency.

And emotions can lead quickly to herd mentality in those not trained to spot it.

The news media is verily becoming disgusting in this country in their attempts to pimp out the emotions of the unawares and untutored...they continue and build on Phil Donahue's work. They are become tabloid like in their presentations once you know. I believe the web and it's potential for free exchange of information has allowed some people to think their way around it. Thus I believe shortly and in the future it will be further controlled...censored as it is in European nations.

It really disgusts me how the media, and for whomever they are pimping, tries to blame people who were not in any way involved in the incident and hold them responsible and accountable ...organizations too. This kind of guilt manipulation and censorship....cognitive dissonance is become predictable... You can see them coming with predictability ...every time. The same olde "Usual Suspects" coming out of the woodwork...trying to herd people by their fear and insecurities.

They are dividing this country over such an incident...dividing not uniting. This also indicating a lack of leadership..but division as a political staple..divide and conquer...as this pseudo leadership has always done from the beginning. This is not leadership...but pimping ..political pimping..in short..."Whoredom."
By this division..by this cognitive dissonance as a management technique...they intend to make us like the rest of the world..not Americans but internationalists...herd animals.

Piers Morgan...now there is a gaslighter. Much of leadership in this country too..herd animals.

My .02.

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I like your .02 cents! We have become a nation of emotional cripples and wannabe victims. I do not wish harm to anyone, but what happened in Oregon does not and should not effect me. I am sure the emotional cripples of the world will disagree and consider me a Neanderthal, which I will accept as a complement. Swamp


:thumbsup: I agree 100%. The only thing we can control is ourselves and we can only, possibly, influence our family and maybe our local community.
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Re: Oregon college shooting

Postby Senah » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:22 pm

We used to live in Roseburg - my husband took tests at UCC and we went there for activities, etc. I worked with UCC kids. I don't know if you can ever predict this sort of thing. On the one hand, we moved away because there were a lot of problems in the town, and we didn't feel safe there. I was getting death threats at work (wouldn't give out pain meds), and people knew our address. Lots of meth addiction and folks without jobs, and mental health problems. Of course, we took advantage of the liberal gun laws because we slept with guns beside our bed, as it would have taken about 20 minutes for the police to arrive if someone had made it to our house in the middle of the night to settle a score.

On the other hand, this shooter didn't even live there when we did. Apparently he was from California and they recently moved to the area. I still have good friends and people I love and care about in Douglas County, for all the problems it has. One of them posted a link to this article, which I think is one of the first reasonable looks at this issue I've seen in a long time. It actually manages to examine the topic of mass shootings from a new perspective, and while I don't necessarily agree with every point, I think it is really the only thing out there worth reading.

http://markmanson.net/school-shootings
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Re: Oregon college shooting

Postby CarlosB4 » Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:54 am

Photon Guy wrote:
No doubt the people that shot you and your friends and family members were either crooks to begin with or mentally deranged or both. That goes to show that we are way below adequate in dealing with crooks and mentally deranged people. They need to be put away. The guy who shot up the Oregon college was obviously mentally deranged. He should've been confined in a clinic. Same thing with Adam Lanza and all the other school shooters. With school shootings its always the case of mental illness, it needs to be dealt with before more school shootings occur.


You are correct on everything except I have to be honest about the time I got shot, I am not sure if I was shot by a crook or a cop. Long story short I found myself as a bystander in a cop & crook shoot out, bullets were flying, things happened very quickly, and I was grazed by a round. I was young growing up in a real rough neighborhood and just didn't hit the ground fast enough. Even if it was a cops round that grazed me, I don't blame the cops one bit I just blame the crooks for the shoot out!
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Re: Oregon college shooting

Postby ajax727 » Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:03 am

https://cdn.liveleak.com/80281E/ll_a_s/ ... c_rate=230


Sorry it gave the link not the pic .
From what I have been able to find about the shooter he did have some ties to Muslim terrorists group Mujahadin , so will the truth come out or will this be covered up and hidden from the public ...
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Re: Oregon college shooting

Postby divers351 » Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:54 am

Nice article SENEH.
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Re: Oregon college shooting

Postby orangetom1999 » Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:55 pm

I know Swamp. That is what verily irritates me...about the gaslighting being pulled off on us carte blanche and so many do not recognize it for what it is.


That the people of this country who have done nothing in this incident are looked upon as if they are guilty of some crime and must pay with the removal or adjustment to their private property. They have hand no hand in this incident yet....the media, leadership, and other social engineers working behind the scenes seem want to declare America as a whole guilty of some moral and ethical trespass or lapse. Same thing with the NRA.
That the NRA is somehow guilty of some moral and ethical trespass as if they were directly involved in this incident.

This type of "Gaslighting" often falls visibly under the common tactic of creating and manufacturing bad guys from those who have no hand or doings in what happened. They are guilty of a crime or moral/ethical trespass or that these people are at least...insane. Yet what disgusts me is that the so called "Conservative " Republican Political party is totally silent on this happening. Silent!!

This is what has caused me to rethinking whether the Republican Party is really conservative or instead ..not the product advertised or both.

They are not even trying to get the American public to think and reason their way around this. Including Fox News...silent on the nature and essence of the gaslighting going on.


Yes..definitely on the wannabe cripples and victims. I had to bust out laughing at the stupidity of it when that woman out west was head of the loal NAACP and it turns out she is white. She discovered that in the manner that this country has been socially remanufactured..it is a more powerful position to claim one is black. That somehow ...looking at and examining everything through the prism of race and racism is power...and in like manner to the gun control people..they too must needs create bad guys whenever they do business. And people are buying it and the guilt politics and Victim Politics which naturally follows. Racism ..like gun control has become a profitable cottage industry among some seeking power and invested in the blame game.

Whoever is running the cottage race industry at the top ..is to me ..the same group running the anti gun crowd by the same modus operandi/MO...

Guilt politics..creating and manufacturing bad guys...who had nothing to do with the incidents which they claim started it or caused.
The racism cottage industry is , in like manner to gun control and other cause celebs, hell bent on "shaking down" the whole nation with their victimization and guilt politics/

Steady streams of "Victimization Politics as well..which accompany in parallel to the guilt politics.

The Feminists follow the same pattern. So too other social causes. The Homosexuals..too...same MO...creating bad guys...making victims...and the following shakedown in the very compliant news media ... You begin to sense that they are all run at the top by the same groups or cabals..and for and towards the same goal. IT becomes like a rerun of the same olde movie when you recognize the pattern over and over ad nauseam.

Control...loss of freedom and liberty reflected in loss of or redistribution of private property...along with the censorship to silence any dissent to what is happening.

Thanks to all for their posts,
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Adding this in edit function.

I pray for the day a leader arises in this nation to put Light on the stink of gaslighting being pulled off on an American public in so many arenas and in so many manufactured created social/political arenas.

That Americans might begin to catch on to the pattern of phoniness and lies/deceit being pulled off on them in order to create chaos and thus remake America into what we see in England and on the Continent....sheep...Subjects of a sovereign government....rather than the people being sovereign and holding their government to account. Runaway Government not responsive to their people...but to someone else not wanting to be seen or known.

I pray for the day that Americans begin catching on to the true nature of their phony media and begin voting against them with their remote controllers.
This will be a race to the finish line..as it looks like governments are trying to shut down what Snowden and others have shown to us...though some of us have known this for over 30 years now....most of America has not thus known.

Gun control is only one aspect of the goals they intend to reach. If Americans had even the slightest hint or idea of the totality of the direction, depravity, and goals that social engineers and controllers, running government behind the scenes on the left and right, wanted to take this country there would be a revolution.

Watch Europe and England carefully. It is my view and belief...that they are test beds for what is coming here....the seed corn for what is coming and planned/planted to come here. But first they must needs disarm us...not just physically take our guns.. but in knowledge as well...they are way ahead in the knowledge department in conditioning and controlling us...putting us where they want us.

To pull off the chaos they have done in Europe...Americans must needs be first disarmed of our guns and thinking ability...communication ability..via internet. Then we can be controlled by our government as the proxy control of the real social engineers in chaos.
Then we can be made to take second, third,and fourth place in our own country to people just coming off the boat as the saying goes.
This is well underway in Europe and England....and many people are catching on quickly but their governments are unresponsive to their concerns. This meaning their governments have long ago been bought off/owned by someone else not wanting to be seen and known.

When the time comes our own proxy government will be unresponsive to our concerns..and will begin labeling and branding ordinary Americans as domestic terrorists...for not going along with and ceding to the program they have hijacked over on us...contrary to the government charter.
But first they must needs take our guns.

Then our own children and grand children women and wives can be subject to the total depravity of which is more and more planned and happening in Europe and England while government and the shilling compliant media cover it up on them and on us....as if it is not happening. They are doing this now as we here speak.
This is happening exponentially and is being deliberately covered up by a compliant news media in Europe, England and also here.

I believe this is why the race now to take our guns...so they can move unrestricted like in Europe and England in putting us second, third, and fourth place in our own nation....to fundamentally change unhindered, and unimpeded, to transform America as the election slogan stated so many years ago.
Most of us had no clue what was coming or intended back then when they stated..."To fundamentally change or transform America" but it is beginning to become clear to some of us now.

Bewarned....

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