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Postby whitebear54 » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:57 am

About two months ago I started a homeopathic, natural medicine regimen for my Type II Diabetes. When I started my fasting blood sugar count was, on average, in the 160-180 range. I'm taking three separate meds to control my blood sugar. Metformin, Glipizide and Januvia (which is hugely expensive) and my goal is to get my A1C down so I can get off those meds.

What I did was to begin each day with a tonic consisting of 1tbsp Bragg's Apple Cider Vinegar, 1tbsp Blue Agave Nectar (or raw, unfiltered honey) mixed in with a half a cup of water.

I then mix 1tsp of Ceylon Cinnamon into a 6oz container of yogurt and eat it while taking a few supplements (Cumin, in the form of Black Seed Oil caplets, Tumeric, along with a few black peppercorns to aid it's absorption, and Ginko Biloba--for my aging brain).

Results: I've lost 8 pounds, which is a good start, but I need to drop about fifty more. My fasting blood sugar count is now down into the 95-125 range. I hoping within a year I'll have lost enough weight and have my blood sugar so well controlled I can lose the meds.

Oh, and as huge side benefit, the Tumeric (maybe in combo with the Cumin) dissolved a kidney stone enough for me to pass it without needing a "procedure."

I'm not saying this will work for everybody, but it certainly is working for me. And now that I'm adding some exercise three or four days a week, I expect even better results.
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Re: Type II Diabetes

Postby rickdun » Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:21 am

Whitebear54, my wife is type-2 and she went to a specialist and that doctor had her all screwed up, two and three different types of medicine and told her to lose weight, my wife only weighs 118 lbs. I asked her to just go to the family doctor and let him take care of her, she now only takes metformin twice a day and was told to actually gain a few pounds and watch her intake of starches and fruits.

Her sugar and AC1 are just fine now.
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Re: Type II Diabetes

Postby Fullmoon » Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:14 am

I was diagnosed with type 2 about 18 years ago, supposedly caused by exposure to agent orange. 80% of the people on the ground in Viet Nam have type 2 diabetes. A lawsuit was filed and in 2001 the Monsanto corporation was forced to establish a fund to pay for the medical care of veterans with this disease. Type 2 is known to progressively get worse as time marches on. Unfortunately the meds involved cause weight gain and attack the kidney's. I was taken off metformin when my kidney function dropped and now I have stage 3 kidney failure as well as diabetes. Was also on glipizide but it causes the pancreas to work harder and eventually burn out and stop producing natural insulin. So then you will be placed on insulin injections which also cause weight gain. It says so in the information sheet packaged with the insulin bottle. All of these big pharma drugs are designed to make money and they only treat the symptoms and cure nothing. Most of the guys I was in the marines with have type 2 diabetes and none have ever reversed this disease. I was placed on a restrictive diet, no oranges, grapefruit, watermelon, rice, potato's, white bread, sugar, beer, wine, ale, whiskey, rum, cereal etc. so what's left to eat? I have cut my caloric intake down to 900 per day with zero weight loss so something is wrong here. I have recently been given a prescription for Metoprolol and it says right on the label "causes unexplained rapid weight gain". So its a never ending cycle of meds that cause other side effects so they can sell more meds. Good luck, I hope you are successful in dropping the weight and getting off the meds.
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Re: Type II Diabetes

Postby angie_nrs » Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:33 pm

You are right Fullmoon. Many times the treatments attempt to treat the symptoms but exacerbate the underlying problem that causes the symptoms. This causes a vicious cycle that never gets better.

I highly suggest reading "The Obesity Code". It is a really good book at explaining the whole cycle and will explain (in terms anyone can understand) just why meds won't work in the long term. Dr. Fung, the author, also gives common sense approaches to treating the problem. In a nutshell, Intermittent Fasting can help to solve the problem and prevent it from happening in the first place. Our bodies were not designed to constantly eat. Is really is no wonder (with food being shoved in our faces all the time) that our nation is so unhealthy and the incidence of diabetes is so high. I practice IF, but not b/c I'm a diabetic. I do it b/c I feel it is healthy and I think it also helps to know how your body will react to any situation. I won't flip out if I have to go a few days without food, even though I typically only fast for 24 hours at a time now. It's really not that hard to do and I feel the health benefits are worth it.

I have nothing to gain by touting this book, but again, I HIGHLY recommend it if you are a type 2 diabetic. Doctors won't tell you how to solve the problem....they just say lose weight and exercise. Yeah, it's not that easy and not very practical advice. The information in the book IS practical advice. Doctors like to solve problems by using a knife or prescribing medications. They do it b/c it is what they have been taught to do and it is a quick fix. It gets you in and out of their office with a "solution". How's that been working out for America? This book is a good read even if you aren't obese or fat as it is succinct at describing how our bodies use fuel and why. Even as a nurse, I found it extremely informative.

A keto diet is also another way to tackle to problem of Type 2 diabetes. I have not dabbled with a Keto diet, but I know some who have and they have had some great results. You'd have to do your own research with this. There are lots of books out there incliding a book called Keto Clarity. I have not read it but plan to soon, so I don't have any opinion of it at this point. Perhaps Amazon reviews would be a place to start for recommendations on it.

Just thought I'd offer some other non-traditional solutions to the problem....... Who knows, maybe someday soon non-traditional solutions will be the only ones we are left with.
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Re: Type II Diabetes

Postby daaswampman » Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:13 pm

Type II Diabetes is a cash cow and the treatment is often worse than the disease. Most cases will responds to dietary changes and activity, but there is no money in that approach.

Please note I said dietary changes and not diet! An improved diet will do more for your health than just weight loss, although both are desirable. A Mediterranean Diet is often helpful as well as intermittent fasting.

Please note I said activity and not exercise! The human was not designed to sit, but that is exactly what most of us do, for much of our day. Simple changes resulting in increased activity is better for your general health than any exercise routine.

Right now I am standing at my office computer, which is far healthier than sitting in front of one. Simple changes work! Swamp
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Re: Type II Diabetes

Postby Stahlrosen » Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:21 pm

Wow Whitebear, that's awesome. :clap:
I will never understand how it is okay for drug companies to poison us under the guise us "curing" us. It is all a sham. They cause other issues so they can keep you drugged up and they make more money :angry:
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Re: Type II Diabetes

Postby whitebear54 » Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:42 pm

Fullmoon wrote:I was diagnosed with type 2 about 18 years ago, supposedly caused by exposure to agent orange. 80% of the people on the ground in Viet Nam have type 2 diabetes. A lawsuit was filed and in 2001 the Monsanto corporation was forced to establish a fund to pay for the medical care of veterans with this disease. Type 2 is known to progressively get worse as time marches on. Unfortunately the meds involved cause weight gain and attack the kidney's. I was taken off metformin when my kidney function dropped and now I have stage 3 kidney failure as well as diabetes. Was also on glipizide but it causes the pancreas to work harder and eventually burn out and stop producing natural insulin. So then you will be placed on insulin injections which also cause weight gain. It says so in the information sheet packaged with the insulin bottle. All of these big pharma drugs are designed to make money and they only treat the symptoms and cure nothing. Most of the guys I was in the marines with have type 2 diabetes and none have ever reversed this disease. I was placed on a restrictive diet, no oranges, grapefruit, watermelon, rice, potato's, white bread, sugar, beer, wine, ale, whiskey, rum, cereal etc. so what's left to eat? I have cut my caloric intake down to 900 per day with zero weight loss so something is wrong here. I have recently been given a prescription for Metoprolol and it says right on the label "causes unexplained rapid weight gain". So its a never ending cycle of meds that cause other side effects so they can sell more meds. Good luck, I hope you are successful in dropping the weight and getting off the meds.


Fullmoon,

The other reason so many of us have Type 2 Diabetes is because we grew old and fat. You are right about many diabetes meds causing weight gain. For awhile I thought it was a conspiracy by the drug companies to keep us on their drugs but then I learned that insulin resistance caused by diabetes itself was the prime culprit. Lack of exercise and overeating are also leading contributors. I've been on Metformin for more than 10 years now and so far so good as far as my kidneys are concerned.

My new diet includes lots of grapefruit (unsweetened) as I'm not on any statin meds. If you can get off statins you should be able to eat grapefruit and it's really good for both glucose control and weight loss.

I really think the main reason I'm losing weight, lowering my blood sugar count and enjoying increased energy is due to an improved diet (lots more rabbit food), the spices I'm taking, and a bit of exercise. I try to swim 1/2 a mile at least 3 times per week but once or twice is more like what happens--an arthritic shoulder complains loudly when I work it too hard. I work pretty hard gardening too and that helps. It's surprising what just adding a few hours a week of exercise can do.

Just a note. Tumeric (taken with a few black peppercorns to help you body absorb it, Ceylon Cinnamon, and Cumin are all good for your kidneys AND your blood sugar. My primary care doc took a look at the spices and herbs I'm taking and said, "Go for it. They don't conflict with any of your meds." But like I said, I'm not on any statin drugs. Good luck to you too, and one old vet to another, thank you for YOUR service.
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Re: Type II Diabetes

Postby whitebear54 » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:27 pm

daaswampman wrote:Type II Diabetes is a cash cow and the treatment is often worse than the disease. Most cases will responds to dietary changes and activity, but there is no money in that approach.

Please note I said dietary changes and not diet! An improved diet will do more for your health than just weight loss, although both are desirable. A Mediterranean Diet is often helpful as well as intermittent fasting.

Please note I said activity and not exercise! The human was not designed to sit, but that is exactly what most of us do, for much of our day. Simple changes resulting in increased activity is better for your general health than any exercise routine.

Right now I am standing at my office computer, which is far healthier than sitting in front of one. Simple changes work! Swamp



You are so right. An improved diet and increased activity leads to having more energy, less weight and lower blood sugar.
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Re: Type II Diabetes

Postby arkieready » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:44 pm

DH was prescribed metformin. He is an OTR truck driver and just couldn't deal with the loose bowels issue the metformin caused. He is a large man, and as a truck driver, doesn't get enough exercise. If he becomes diebetic, he's out of a job!!!!
I don't know how to get him to comply with diet and exercise . I worry. A lot. I know it's tough to eat healthy on the road ( I was OTR 35 years ago), so I really understand the hardship to find healthy food. its a worrisome thing.
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Re: Type II Diabetes

Postby Cin » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:02 pm

Here is a guide about Intermittent Fasting that might be useful:

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/intermittent-fasting-guide#section1

I am a healthy 60 year old, but am very interested in this topic as I have a family history of Type ll Diabetes. In February of this year, I decided to do something about my weight, and any future problems. I read up on ways to lose weight, get healthier, etc. Basically, the best way to lose weight is to "put down the fork."

So I found one of the many BMI calculators, punched in my numbers, and went with the caloric count it required for me to lose the extra 40 pounds I'd packed on over the last 8 years. The calculator I used said I could eat 1200 calories and lose the poundage. So that's what I did. I dropped about 2.5 pounds a week and have lost 30+ pounds so far. I hit a plateau about 4 weeks ago, plus have not stuck to the 1200 calories per day since then, so I've only dropped about 2 pounds over the last 4 weeks. Now that life has settled down, I plan to get back on the plan and lose the final 10 pounds. I eat what I want, I simply count calories.

Sometimes I go a little over, sometimes I go a little under, but I try to be consistent for the most part. There's supposed to be one "cheat" day built in where you can go over the count. Also, all the foods' calories were figured out by typing it into the search browser, How many calories are in _____? There were several websites that freely shared the info without me having to join, including MyFitnessPal.

Here's a week of my calorie count:

5/6/17
White Chocolate mocha coffee – 30 calories
Banana – 105 calories
¼ cup oatmeal/butter/cream – 118 calories
avocado/cuke/tomato salad – 311 calories
(This salad also has 1 Tbsp. light mayo, 1 Tbsp. lemon juice, and a sprinkle of seasoning salt counted in the total)
2 stalks celery – 12 calories
1 carrot – 25 calories
2 cups tea – 30 calories
1 cube cheese – 69 calories
6 fried shrimp – 48 calories
1 sweet potato – 114 calories
2 Tbsp. honey butter – 120 calories
1 scoop ice cream with topping – 200 calories
TOTAL: 1182 calories

5/7/17
WC mocha – 30 calories
Banana – 105 calories
¼ cup oatmeal/butter/cream – 118 calories
avocado/cuke/tomato salad – 311 calories
2 stalks celery – 12 calories
1 carrot – 25 calories
Steak burger – 290 calories
1 slice American cheese – 60 calories
Hamburger Bun – 140 calories
Ketchup – 20 calories
Sweet Relish – 20 calories
Lettuce – 1 calorie
2 slices tomato – 15 calories
Steak fries – 161 calories
TOTAL: 1308 calories

5/8/17

WC mocha – 30 calories
Banana – 105 calories
¼ cup oatmeal/butter/cream – 118 calories
6 inch Subway club – 310 calories
1 choc doughnut – 60 calories
6 inch Subway club – 310 calories
WC mocha – 30 calories
Omelet/potato/sausage - 378
TOTAL: 1341 calories

5/9/17

WC mocha – 30 calories
Banana – 105 calories
1 choc doughnut – 60 calories
¼ cup oatmeal/butter/cream – 118 calories
avocado/cuke/tomato salad – 311 calories
2 stalks celery – 12 calories
1 carrot – 25 calories
WC mocha – 30 calories
Pork chop – 163 calories
½ cup mashed potatoes – 105 calories
¼ cup gravy – 30 calories
1 slice apple pie – 67 calories
3 Tbsps. Whipped cream – 9 calories
TOTAL: 1065 calories

5/10/17

WC mocha – 30 calories
Banana – 105 calories
1 hardboiled egg – 78 calories
2 slices bacon – 86 calories
avocado/cuke/tomato salad – 311 calories
2 stalks celery – 12 calories
1 carrot – 25 calories
2 cups tea – 30 calories
1 slice apple pie – 67 calories
3 Tbsps. Whipped cream – 9 calories
Salad w/lite ranch – 50 calories
Vinegar/lemon/cinnamon drink – 17 calories
Pork chop – 163 calories
½ cup mashed potatoes – 105 calories
2 tablespoons gravy – 10 calories
WC mocha – 30 calories
TOTAL: 1128 calories

5/11/17

Vinegar/lemon/cinnamon drink – 17 calories
WC mocha – 30 calories
Banana – 105 calories
1 hardboiled egg – 78 calories
2 slices bacon – 86 calories
avocado/ tomato salad – 303 calories
2 stalks celery – 12 calories
1 slice apple pie – 67 calories
2 Tbsps. Whipped cream – 15 calories
Salad lettuce/celery/cheese – 20 calories
2 fried chicken tenders – 200 calories
1/3 cup stuffing – 30 calories
1 slice apple pie – 67 calories
2Tablespoons whipped topping – 15 calories
1 scoop ice cream – 122 calories
1 cup coffee with creamer – 15 calories
TOTAL: 1182 calories

5/12/17

Vinegar/lemon/cinnamon drink – 17 calories
WC mocha – 30 calories
Banana – 105 calories
1 hardboiled egg – 78 calories
2 slices bacon – 86 calories
Hamburger - 290 calories
1 slice American cheese – 60 calories
Hamburger Bun – 140 calories
Ketchup – 20 calories
Lettuce – 1 calorie
2 slices tomato – 6 calories
½ cup French fries – 61 calories
1 Tablespoon ketchup – 20 calories
1 slice apple pie – 67 calories
2 Tablespoons whipped cream – 15 calories
TOTAL: 996 calories

5/13/17

Vinegar/lemon/cinnamon drink – 17 calories
WC mocha – 30 calories
Banana – 105 calories
1 hardboiled egg – 78 calories
2 slices bacon – 86 calories
2 cups tea – 30 calories
2 stalks celery – 12 calories
1 carrot – 25 calories
Lettuce/tomato/cuke salad – 31 calories
1Tbsp. ranch dressing – 40 calories
1 slice apple pie – 67 calories
2 Tbsps. Whipped cream – 15 calories
3 ounce steak – 189 calories
¼ cup steak fries – 50 calories
1/3 cup green beans – 22 calories
¼ cup mushrooms – 4 calories
1 Tbsp. ketchup – 20 calories
TOTAL: 821 calories

5/14/17

Vinegar/lemon/cinnamon drink – 17 calories
WC mocha – 30 calories
Banana – 105 calories
1 hardboiled egg – 78 calories
4 Canadian bacon – 80 calories
8 potato chips – 75 calories
1 fried chicken drumstick – 120 calories
½ cup mashed potatoes – 105 calories
¼ cup white gravy – 40 calories
1/3 cup green beans – 22 calories
Cake/sponge/pudd/whip – 204 calories
1 cup watermelon – 46 calories
3 cups popcorn – 90 calories
Apple pie/wh.cream – 82 calories
TOTAL: 1094 calories


The end result of doing this since February, besides the lost weight, is that my stomach has shrunk and I cannot eat a full meal all at once, otherwise I get that stuffed, sluggish feeling that lasts until the next day. Also, I cannot eat a lot of sugar all at once, either. Most desserts are now to sweet for me.

Another item of note - the popcorn really fills you up if you are still hungry and is only 30 calories per cup.
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Re: Type II Diabetes

Postby whitebear54 » Sat Oct 14, 2017 9:31 pm

Good going Cin,

Eat less and exercise more has always been the surest way to weight loss, but losing weight is much harder when you are type 2 already as your meds can cause you to gain weight.

I use http://www.myfitnesspal.com to keep my food diary so I can log all the food I eat every day and I mean ALL of it. I do cheat. If there are two different calorie counts for the same food I use the larger count. I also discount their exercise calorie counts as I think they are vastly inflated. That means when my daily entry is done and tallied up I might have entered 1900 calories (my daily goal is less than 1980) where in reality I may have only eaten 1700. It works well if you stick to it.
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Re: Type II Diabetes

Postby daaswampman » Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:24 pm

Cin wrote:Here is a guide about Intermittent Fasting that might be useful:

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/intermittent-fasting-guide#section1

I am a healthy 60 year old, but am very interested in this topic as I have a family history of Type ll Diabetes. In February of this year, I decided to do something about my weight, and any future problems. I read up on ways to lose weight, get healthier, etc. Basically, the best way to lose weight is to "put down the fork."

So I found one of the many BMI calculators, punched in my numbers, and went with the caloric count it required for me to lose the extra 40 pounds I'd packed on over the last 8 years. The calculator I used said I could eat 1200 calories and lose the poundage. So that's what I did. I dropped about 2.5 pounds a week and have lost 30+ pounds so far. I hit a plateau about 4 weeks ago, plus have not stuck to the 1200 calories per day since then, so I've only dropped about 2 pounds over the last 4 weeks. Now that life has settled down, I plan to get back on the plan and lose the final 10 pounds. I eat what I want, I simply count calories.

Sometimes I go a little over, sometimes I go a little under, but I try to be consistent for the most part. There's supposed to be one "cheat" day built in where you can go over the count. Also, all the foods' calories were figured out by typing it into the search browser, How many calories are in _____? There were several websites that freely shared the info without me having to join, including MyFitnessPal.

Here's a week of my calorie count:

5/6/17
White Chocolate mocha coffee – 30 calories
Banana – 105 calories
¼ cup oatmeal/butter/cream – 118 calories
avocado/cuke/tomato salad – 311 calories
(This salad also has 1 Tbsp. light mayo, 1 Tbsp. lemon juice, and a sprinkle of seasoning salt counted in the total)
2 stalks celery – 12 calories
1 carrot – 25 calories
2 cups tea – 30 calories
1 cube cheese – 69 calories
6 fried shrimp – 48 calories
1 sweet potato – 114 calories
2 Tbsp. honey butter – 120 calories
1 scoop ice cream with topping – 200 calories
TOTAL: 1182 calories

5/7/17
WC mocha – 30 calories
Banana – 105 calories
¼ cup oatmeal/butter/cream – 118 calories
avocado/cuke/tomato salad – 311 calories
2 stalks celery – 12 calories
1 carrot – 25 calories
Steak burger – 290 calories
1 slice American cheese – 60 calories
Hamburger Bun – 140 calories
Ketchup – 20 calories
Sweet Relish – 20 calories
Lettuce – 1 calorie
2 slices tomato – 15 calories
Steak fries – 161 calories
TOTAL: 1308 calories

5/8/17

WC mocha – 30 calories
Banana – 105 calories
¼ cup oatmeal/butter/cream – 118 calories
6 inch Subway club – 310 calories
1 choc doughnut – 60 calories
6 inch Subway club – 310 calories
WC mocha – 30 calories
Omelet/potato/sausage - 378
TOTAL: 1341 calories

5/9/17

WC mocha – 30 calories
Banana – 105 calories
1 choc doughnut – 60 calories
¼ cup oatmeal/butter/cream – 118 calories
avocado/cuke/tomato salad – 311 calories
2 stalks celery – 12 calories
1 carrot – 25 calories
WC mocha – 30 calories
Pork chop – 163 calories
½ cup mashed potatoes – 105 calories
¼ cup gravy – 30 calories
1 slice apple pie – 67 calories
3 Tbsps. Whipped cream – 9 calories
TOTAL: 1065 calories

5/10/17

WC mocha – 30 calories
Banana – 105 calories
1 hardboiled egg – 78 calories
2 slices bacon – 86 calories
avocado/cuke/tomato salad – 311 calories
2 stalks celery – 12 calories
1 carrot – 25 calories
2 cups tea – 30 calories
1 slice apple pie – 67 calories
3 Tbsps. Whipped cream – 9 calories
Salad w/lite ranch – 50 calories
Vinegar/lemon/cinnamon drink – 17 calories
Pork chop – 163 calories
½ cup mashed potatoes – 105 calories
2 tablespoons gravy – 10 calories
WC mocha – 30 calories
TOTAL: 1128 calories

5/11/17

Vinegar/lemon/cinnamon drink – 17 calories
WC mocha – 30 calories
Banana – 105 calories
1 hardboiled egg – 78 calories
2 slices bacon – 86 calories
avocado/ tomato salad – 303 calories
2 stalks celery – 12 calories
1 slice apple pie – 67 calories
2 Tbsps. Whipped cream – 15 calories
Salad lettuce/celery/cheese – 20 calories
2 fried chicken tenders – 200 calories
1/3 cup stuffing – 30 calories
1 slice apple pie – 67 calories
2Tablespoons whipped topping – 15 calories
1 scoop ice cream – 122 calories
1 cup coffee with creamer – 15 calories
TOTAL: 1182 calories

5/12/17

Vinegar/lemon/cinnamon drink – 17 calories
WC mocha – 30 calories
Banana – 105 calories
1 hardboiled egg – 78 calories
2 slices bacon – 86 calories
Hamburger - 290 calories
1 slice American cheese – 60 calories
Hamburger Bun – 140 calories
Ketchup – 20 calories
Lettuce – 1 calorie
2 slices tomato – 6 calories
½ cup French fries – 61 calories
1 Tablespoon ketchup – 20 calories
1 slice apple pie – 67 calories
2 Tablespoons whipped cream – 15 calories
TOTAL: 996 calories

5/13/17

Vinegar/lemon/cinnamon drink – 17 calories
WC mocha – 30 calories
Banana – 105 calories
1 hardboiled egg – 78 calories
2 slices bacon – 86 calories
2 cups tea – 30 calories
2 stalks celery – 12 calories
1 carrot – 25 calories
Lettuce/tomato/cuke salad – 31 calories
1Tbsp. ranch dressing – 40 calories
1 slice apple pie – 67 calories
2 Tbsps. Whipped cream – 15 calories
3 ounce steak – 189 calories
¼ cup steak fries – 50 calories
1/3 cup green beans – 22 calories
¼ cup mushrooms – 4 calories
1 Tbsp. ketchup – 20 calories
TOTAL: 821 calories

5/14/17

Vinegar/lemon/cinnamon drink – 17 calories
WC mocha – 30 calories
Banana – 105 calories
1 hardboiled egg – 78 calories
4 Canadian bacon – 80 calories
8 potato chips – 75 calories
1 fried chicken drumstick – 120 calories
½ cup mashed potatoes – 105 calories
¼ cup white gravy – 40 calories
1/3 cup green beans – 22 calories
Cake/sponge/pudd/whip – 204 calories
1 cup watermelon – 46 calories
3 cups popcorn – 90 calories
Apple pie/wh.cream – 82 calories
TOTAL: 1094 calories


The end result of doing this since February, besides the lost weight, is that my stomach has shrunk and I cannot eat a full meal all at once, otherwise I get that stuffed, sluggish feeling that lasts until the next day. Also, I cannot eat a lot of sugar all at once, either. Most desserts are now to sweet for me.

Another item of note - the popcorn really fills you up if you are still hungry and is only 30 calories per cup.


Thank you for posting a good article on intermittent fasting. It has done wonders for my health and energy! The side benefit for Preppers is you will not panic if you miss a few meals! I follow a 18/6 pattern as it fits my lifestyle. I also fast one day a week and a week four times a year! I am healthier than anyone I know my age! So while everyone is panicking about a 72 hour food supply, it would be life as usual for me. Swamp
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Re: Type II Diabetes

Postby NJMike » Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:13 pm

Great topic. I have someone close to me with Diabetes and shared a link to this.

Back in 2012 I lost 70 lbs. Basically did something similar to Cin by counting calories. I used a calorie counting website to log my meals and made it a goal to eat more balanced. It's basic math and works.

Life threw me some curve balls the last few years and I'd gotten out of the disciplined eating habit. Looking to start back up again though. I don't have Diabetes but I do have mild hypertension to get under control.
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Re: Type II Diabetes

Postby ForwardPreppers » Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:23 pm

Thanks for the article on IF, after reading about it I have decided to give it a try. I am doing 16/8. Once I am used to it, I will try to fast one day a week here and there. I don't think I could do a whole week like Swamp! I have heard of liquid fasts where folks can consume liquids that have calories. There was also a recommendation to have a day or two that you limit your caloric intake to 500-600 calories - I may be able to give that a try.

I am not diabetic but really need to lose about 30 pounds - lost some last year and gained about 13 of it back this year. Hubs and I really need to take this prep seriously!

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Re: Type II Diabetes

Postby angie_nrs » Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:45 pm

ForwardPreppers wrote:Thanks for the article on IF, after reading about it I have decided to give it a try. I am doing 16/8. Once I am used to it, I will try to fast one day a week here and there. I don't think I could do a whole week like Swamp! I have heard of liquid fasts where folks can consume liquids that have calories. There was also a recommendation to have a day or two that you limit your caloric intake to 500-600 calories - I may be able to give that a try.


What you are referring to in the 500-600 calorie allotment is outlined in "the Fast Diet" book. It was the first book on the subject I started with and would recommend it. Those calories should be low glycemic. I used the same meal over and over so it was easy for me to adhere to. It eventually got to the point where it was easier for me to just do without than to eat. Although, I'm thinking of adding in a 3rd fasting day to my schedule and if I do I will likely add in those additional calories so that day is not too difficult. Not eating seems scary if you haven't done it before....but doing it actually takes all the fear out of it.

I haven't done the week long fast yet either, but I will be trying it. The general feedback is that after the 2nd day, it's much easier. I guess we'll see. One thing about it is that you can always decide to break the fast if it just isn't working for you. It's more of a personal mind game than anything else. I guess that is pretty much the crux of fear itself.
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